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- From: genew@mindlink.bc.ca (Gene Wirchenko)
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- Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Vacant Job Positions
- Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 16:00:55 GMT
- Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
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- clifforda@aol.com (CliffordA) wrote:
-
- >This topic is getting a little old, respectfully. What I am hearing is
- >that skilled workers don't need a four year degree. Seems like the next
- >blue collar class to me. My 80 year old grmandfather told me he never
- >appreciated his liberal arts degree until he retired. So why do employers
- >look for a degree? I think its that the probability is higher in finding
- >someone who can code, communicate, and exhibit some past creative thinking
- >process.
-
- I think it is incompetent HR departments: incompetent in the
- sense that they do not really know what is required on the job.
- People who do not have judgement in an area can generally be counted
- on to use nice, solid rules such as "The applicant must have a
- degree.", "Never use gotos.", or what-have-you.
- However, I find that line managers know what is needed. This is
- no surprise: they have to deal with the situations. Any rules get
- tested fairly well and the loony ones die.
-
- >Sounds like a lot of programmers focused on one thing along time ago and
- >need to say, hey, look at me. I think these people should be proud of
-
- Well, when you are applying for a job, yes, you do need to do
- "Look at me."
-
- >what they have accomplished but realize they are in a minority, at least
- >from HR's perspective. Would you want your children to take the same
-
- What is HR's perspective?
-
- >path?
-
- The elite are always a minority, so bashing a minority is not
- necessarily the route to take.
- I do not have any children, but if I did, no, I would not want
- them to take the same path as the HR people.
-
- >AC
-
- I have received too many letters from HR departments that go
- something like "While we were most impressed with your qualifications,
- <no>." At one point, I was pondering writing the HR letter from Hell
- which would go something like: "While we were most impressed with your
- qualifications, it obviously couldn't have been favorably or we would
- have called you by now."
- Where possible, I avoid HR departments and deal directly with the
- line manager. It's much more workable.
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Gene Wirchenko
-
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